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Counter-demonstrators are held back by police, from right-wing supporters of the Patriot Prayer group during a rally in Portland, Oregon, U.S. August 4, 2018. REUTERS/Jim Urquhart

When asked his opinion of the Iran-Iraq War, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger reportedly commented: “It’s a shame they can’t both lose.” Sensible observers should have the same reaction to the nutty, alt-right protestors planning to assemble in another “Unite the Right” rally in the nation’s capital, and to the pathetic thugs with Antifa and “Black Lives Matter” who plan to confront them on the streets in a degrading, destructive, utterly pointless confrontation.

Marching around with Nazi regalia and Confederate flags does nothing to advance the conservative cause or assist the Trump agenda, while responding to such foolish displays with violence against courageous police officers only disgraces the loony left. Wouldn’t both sides – and the country at large – be better off if they stayed home and enjoyed what remains of the summer, leaving the Washington streets to tourist families and peaceful patriots?

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  1. Ty  •  Aug 8, 2018 at 6:42 pm

    I just looked this group up

    https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/zmkwna/patriot-prayer-is-dragging-antifa-into-an-unwinnable-pr-war

    and true to form, it's nothing but yet ANOTHER conservative christian victim cult going out of their way for evidence of how oppressed they are.

    It is pathetic Michael, pathetic that this is what so much of modern conservatism is fueled by.

    • Snead Hearn  •  Aug 10, 2018 at 6:58 pm

      In fact almost none of us who are not aligned with the progressive left are fueled by this nonsense. I guess you are just wrong

  2. suretylink  •  Aug 10, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    First, a lot of us think that Nazism and other forms of fascism belong on the left side of the spectrum. That is a message that I would like to see emphasized more by conservatives. National Review has recently had an exceptionally good article, showing that while the Nazis may be right of the Communists; they are Left of avowed Socialist, Bernie Sanders.

    Second, while I like a lot of what the GOP is doing, the direction of POTUS and the success of the economy; I still don't like Trump and long for when when people no longer get attention for merely being nasty and noisy, whether they are Maxine Waters, Alex Jones or anyone else.

  3. Mike Ruzza  •  Aug 10, 2018 at 2:33 pm

    'So much of???' Eat those words pal. There's 1,000 loony lefties for every one of these folks; and you're comparing an apple to a bridge. You should choose your words more carefully. It's enough that we get hocked on by the lying MSM, and you come along tossing gas on a fire.

  4. Rizzo  •  Aug 10, 2018 at 2:39 pm

    You are DEAD-ON CORRECT, when it comes to the connection between the left and Nazi/Fascism.

    • tru  •  Aug 17, 2018 at 1:57 pm

      Why don't you actually provide examples, evidence, and facts for once? you bring down this site with your paranoid, obsessive, hate rants that are nothing but generalities and grievances which appear to have been scripted by Trump. You hate me, you hate Ty, who at least provides thoughtful substance with his opinions, and you project your hatreds and biases onto anyone who isn't foaming at the mouth like yourself.

    • Rick Nuttall  •  Aug 25, 2018 at 3:16 am

      I call them Marxo-fascist, they can't get it right what they are. Any idea other than the Constitution is not an idea or government we should have. We are not set up this way, we are set up with the founding fathers and what they wrote and gave us in the Constitution

  5. Jim Bird  •  Aug 11, 2018 at 12:37 am

    Sure Michael let’s all run and hide from the Marxists—let’s enjoy what’s left of summer and what’s left of America too. So if we ignore Antifa, Black Lives Matter, George Soros, the Deep State (they’re all innocent don’t you know), open borders and a few thousand other government funded entities who’s sole purpose is to overthrow the government then everyone will be happy again. I know what Americans can do, and like you say Michael, “…yes Democrats rig every national and most local ones every election cycle which means Republicans just have to find new ways to get out the vote.” How about rule of law — no you say. How about voter ID — only racists do that, no way. HOW FOLLOWING EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAW — no you say f___ that. DO REPUBLICANS THINK I’M STUPID? Yes. Michael and the establishment rinos are all-in all the time with doing nothing which they have mastered. Michael’s words are meaningless. Every f___ing word Trump speaks is meaningful AND LIKE HUMAN BEINGS WHO WORK FOR A LIVING, WE TAKE ACTION IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION UNTIL THE GOAL IS REACHED OR DIE TRYING. I will die in the streets for my country. Michael and the GOP establishment will not. The GOP are cowards and corrupt. They’re not violent like the Dems, because they’re cowards. Has anyone seen a Rino on TV in months—it’s always someone from Free Caucus begging GOP to get their heads out of their ass and do something, anything. Disgusting Jerks.

  6. Rizzo  •  Aug 11, 2018 at 10:33 am

    Here is what the left is…. not the far left, not Antifa, but the mainstream left. The left have become nothing more than hateful, intolerant people, devoid of critical thought, and debating skills.
    -Conservative activists Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens were harassed by protesters at a Philadelphia coffee shop Monday morning.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/06/charlie-kirk-candace-owens-attacked-by-leftist-mob/

    • Tru  •  Aug 12, 2018 at 1:49 pm

      I love the smell of broad, stupid generalizations in the morning. Thanks for your contribution, Riz.

      • Rizzo  •  Aug 13, 2018 at 6:21 pm

        Nothing compares to the stench of shallow, emptiness…. Tru, your mighty contributions to this type of stink has not gone unnoticed.

  7. Rizzo  •  Aug 11, 2018 at 11:04 am

    I assume every Democrat will support John James in Michigan, right?
    We conservatives will support him because of his conservative, pro-American policies.
    You leftists will support him, because he's a black guy, right?
    You wouldn't dare vote for an old-ass white woman over a young African American, would you?
    We know what you predictable frauds will do.
    Ty… Do you LOVE JOHN JAMES? The Democrat plantation days are coming to an end… your days are numbered for getting 99% of the black vote. African Americans, throughout the country, are starting to wakeup. They see through the empty promises and fear-tactics of the left.
    They are loving MAGA TOO!!!!

    https://johnjamesforsenate.com

    • Ty  •  Aug 12, 2018 at 12:04 am

      I would vote for a nearly thousand year old white male Bernie Sanders before I voted for that John James Trump loving clown.

      The liberal tent still demands liberal affinities and beliefs. This idea that we were EVER just about identity issues, when the reality is the right has been far more trapped by such pull was ALWAYS a fantasy.

      The conservative tent demands conservative affinities and beliefs… in ADDITION to cultural/religious SAMENESS to a much larger degree.

      Nikki Haley – Converted to Christianity
      Dinesh D'Souza – Catholic
      Amul Thapar – Catholic
      Bobby Jindal – Converted to christianity, and changed his name, he BETTER have done that, he KNOWS how conservatives are, if a candidate strays on ANYTHING like LOOKING just like the rest of them, they better effing MAX OUT ALL other IDENTITY signals to get those right wingers to come on board – That is just how intolerant they are as a people. Can you imagine evangelicals supporting a Hindu candidate? They could barely stomach Romney.
      Romesh Ponnuru – Catholic

      LOOK INWARD conservatives, for once in your shallow lives, look at what drives you. You KNOW the democrats, the LIBERALS of this world do not DEMAND the kind of religious conformity to be part of our tent. What does it say about your natures? That they are so frightened, fragile, wary of things that are not JUST like yourself you want to swat it away with a stick, make it clear it is not one of you.

      Free yourselves from these ugly, hideous, dark impulses. Become… more liberal. I know, you can't stand the concept, but it will set you free. The water is warmer over here. Would I lie?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhFpbgvmyao

      nb4 people claim I am trying to lure them to the dark side. One day, after decades of the waters of reality have finally cracked deep enough into those conservative skulls, there may be hope for some of you.

  8. Rizzo  •  Aug 12, 2018 at 1:29 am

    Ty… You clearly hate people of color. You are, what you accuse conservatives of being.

    But, you are right about one thing…. if you want to be part of the conservative tent, there is ONLY ONE REQUIREMENT…. you have to be a conservative.

    • Ty  •  Aug 12, 2018 at 2:02 pm

      I hate, and like, people of all colors. And once again, you are off the mark. It's not that conservatives hate people of color… (well, the nativists definitely do), this is a more general issue of conservatives, as a people, being more wary of things that are not just like them. What someone looks like is the easiest thing that sticks out to everyone so that is the first and easiest mark of "otherness," but that can be overcome. Not as easily with conservatives, but it can happen. Especially of you show signs of being on board other hallmarks of a movement. But with conservatives, you lose one hallmark, you better make up for it!

      Not white AND not christian… damn, strike 2! Best convert, swear fealty to the ONE True GOD! Then you are more trustworthy. THAT kind of cultural/religious fealty is just not required on the liberal side. A lot of American Hindus are super conservative in their personal lives and how they carry themselves. Doesn't matter. Not to too many of the American conservative crowd, too different, too alien.

      It need not be that way, in the UK, since their conservatives are more liberal, this happens

      http://theconversation.com/how-the-conservatives-stole-the-british-indian-vote-from-labour-77275

      But I can thank my lucky stars that American conservatives are not that open. And Trump has lulled the nativists into a local maximum thinking it was a stable path forward to just appeal to SAMENESS when the relative demographic strength of that SAMENESS is still shrinking over time. It will be interesting to see if conservatives learn and adapt. I hope not. We liberals have work to do, and you all are in the way.

      • Rizzo  •  Aug 12, 2018 at 9:46 pm

        You gotta love the idea that conservatives "stole" the British-Indian vote….
        As if, the leftists OWN that vote.
        Well Ty, get ready, cause we conservatives, here in America… we're about to "steal" your black vote.
        American blacks are leaving the Democrat Plantation.
        #walkaway is growing!

      • Rizzo  •  Aug 13, 2018 at 10:44 am

        Ty
        Who are these so-called "nativists" that you conjured-up in your twisted, imaginary world?
        You are the PERFECT leftists, you create these 100% false, alternate-realities, then fight all indignantly with them.
        You really are a clown.

  9. Rizzo  •  Aug 12, 2018 at 1:36 am

    "They could barely stomach Romney."
    Who… Democrats?
    Wait… you voted for Romney?

  10. Rizzo  •  Aug 12, 2018 at 1:44 am

    Dinesh D'Souza – Catholic
    Amul Thapar – Catholic
    Bobby Jindal – Converted to christianity, and changed his name.

    Changed his name? Really? Because Jindal doesn't sound Indian at all.
    Are you that damn dumb and/or shallow?

    We conservatives support people, who have conservative beliefs….. we don't care about religion, color, gender, etc., etc., etc.

    It's not difficult to understand.

    • Tru  •  Aug 12, 2018 at 1:52 pm

      It's just difficult to observe. Oh, wait. I guess maybe it's invisible.

    • Rick Nuttall  •  Aug 25, 2018 at 3:19 am

      BINGO!!!! It doesn't matter who you are, if you support all that is America not your personal agenda Communism, Fascism, or treason, we support any and all REAL AMERICANS.

  11. Rizzo  •  Aug 12, 2018 at 9:23 am

    "The liberal tent still demands liberal affinities and beliefs."
    – Ignorance/Disdain for history
    – Pro Baby Killing at any time for any reason or no reason at all
    – Redefining marriage to mean anything
    – Redefining gender to mean anything
    – Anti Law Enforcement and rule of law
    – Open boarders
    – Hatred of religion and religious people

    There's a good start. Does anyone care to add to this list?

    • Ty  •  Aug 12, 2018 at 9:40 pm

      I love your list Rizzo, not because it's correct, because it's such a perfect distillation of what gets filtered into that thick conservative head of yours. Literally every single thing you listed about liberals is either outright wrong or some abomination of a mischaracterization of what is real. But to you, it makes all the sense in the world. And there are so many conservatives reading this that think YOU make perfect sense!

      For the rest of us, that have not sniffed that much paint and ingested that much lead as infants, we are just left awed by what we have to bulldoze over politically. This is useful to see what a lost cause is, recognize the crazy uninformed black hole of rationality and sense for what it is, and plan to neutralize it so it does not suck in weak minded cripples who might fall into the same madness.

    • Rizzo  •  Aug 13, 2018 at 4:05 pm

      Ty
      Let’s go one by one…. nice a slow, for the half-wit leftists.

      Please tell us how this is wrong.
      – Hatred of religion and religious people.

      You have 50+ pages, in which you posted, that proves your religious hatred.

  12. Rizzo  •  Aug 12, 2018 at 10:25 am

    Ty… I know you're a big fan of YouTube videos, this video can NOT be highlighted enough.

    To ALL my fellow conservatives, if you want to brighten your day… PLEASE do yourself a favor and watch this video.
    Have a GREAT DAY!

    https://youtu.be/G87UXIH8Lzo

    • Tru  •  Aug 12, 2018 at 1:54 pm

      Yes, be sure to keep your factual content limited to whatever you see on You Tube, the conservative voice of enlightenment and wisdom.

      • Rizzo  •  Aug 18, 2018 at 9:13 am

        Yes Tru…. because in your world, if it’s not reported on MSLSD, then it didn’t happen, and it’s not factual.

  13. M  •  Aug 16, 2018 at 11:37 am

    The issues that conservatives raise are alarming. Conservatism is under attack by the double standards of the political left. They use the power of government and corporate conglomerate to such down conservative voices from speaking at events, ban them from producing content that people want to see, and in some places jail them. All the while they push for a multicultural agenda, and systematically attack people's fundamental rights to free speech and self defense. Do we need more conversations and less violence? YES! But the left will not allow that to happen. They don't want to convene or converse with you. If you do not hold the same views they do and don't vote they way they do, you are not considered human and any and all levels of violence forced upon you is justified. Sitting back and enjoying the summer is no longer an option? Why? Because in their own words… "Liberals get the bullet too."

  14. DON S REDD  •  Aug 28, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    I was talking to you on your show today and we got cut off. I was explaining the term "violence in today's usage of the word as often used in the law as well as on the street. You thought it was no so used in the law. Utah Code of Criminal Procedure Title 77 defines "Domestic violence" (not domestic abuse) in section 77-36-1 as includes along with the normal acts (actual violence) such things as "harassment": "offences against property" which can include trespass and Burglary and even theft by extortion as what the State of Colorado was doing to the cake shop owner I referred to. A dictionary definition includes under "noun" for of the word violence…"rough or immoderate , is vehemence. That is what the left does in the media daily to the liberty side. That is what I would expect for a Democrat congress as the President warned (if he did)

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