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With most Americans undeniably dissatisfied with the direction of their government, why would some congressional conservatives insist on identifying Republicans as unyielding defenders of a broken status quo? Their implacable obsession with uprooting ObamaCare and their die-hard resistance to immigration reform all but guarantee near-term legislative defeats and long-term devastation to future party prospects.

First, ObamaCare. Under relentless pressure from a handful of Republican senators led by Texas’ Ted Cruz, the House on Friday passed a bill that would defund ObamaCare but keep money flowing for other government operations through Dec. 15.

But all observers—including Mr. Cruz himself—acknowledge that the Senate will overhaul the House’s measure to restore the health-care funding. When the bill is then kicked back to the House, the public will face a government shutdown as the fiscal year ends Sept. 30. At that point, the GOP will confront a painful but inevitable choice: surrendering to the president and his allies, either before or after a wildly unpopular government shutdown.

Rather than confronting these incontestable realities, too many conservatives choose to embrace the role of sure losers. To use a military analogy, there is no glory in charging recklessly up a hill when you know your forces will be mowed down by enemy fire before reaching the top. Glory comes in making the enemy lose. The GOP shouldn’t pursue noble defeat while standing on principle. You build momentum for a movement by achieving legislative victories, not by racking up high-profile losses.

This doesn’t mean that conservatives should abandon all efforts to reduce the pernicious impact of the Affordable Care Act. But ObamaCare critics must adopt achievable goals rather than raising false hopes among the base by focusing on grand schemes to repeal or totally defund the program.

An emphasis on fixing ObamaCare, or delaying its more obnoxious aspects, would resonate far more effectively with an increasingly cynical public. That approach would also address complaints from many quarters that Republicans talk almost exclusively about what they don’t want, without putting forward their own proposals for repair.

Such a negative-only attitude describes much of the GOP opposition to comprehensive immigration reform. Earlier this year, Republicans denounced a flawed Senate compromise, but failed to come forward with their own credible plan to improve a dysfunctional immigration system that has become a national embarrassment.

It simply isn’t enough to continue demanding more money for border fences and drones along the Rio Grande. Everyone knows that the Democratic-controlled Senate would never allow immigration reform that only addresses border security. And no matter how effectively such a fence might help block future migrants, it does nothing to address the 11 million undocumented immigrants already in the U.S.

Since overwhelming majorities in both parties reject the impractical concept of mass deportations, there’s only one way to make serious reductions in the unconscionable number of unauthorized aliens. They need to be given a path to change their status from illegal to legal, albeit a slow path to make up for their past rule-breaking. Republicans who oppose such common-sense reform confirm the GOP’s image as the “party of no,” always ready to oppose reform but unwilling to present constructive alternatives.

If immigration reform passes Congress and winds up on the president’s desk, it’s easy to imagine most Americans celebrating the fresh starts given to millions of unauthorized immigrants and the extension of the rule of law to a significant segment of the workforce. But if immigration reform dies, then what, exactly, would restrictionists celebrate? That, once again, attempts to rationalize a dysfunctional immigration system have failed?

On ObamaCare and immigration reform, too many Republicans have cast themselves as classic villains in a heart-tugging melodrama of Democratic design. Liberal Democrats play the do-gooders trying to give something to the American people, while conservative Republicans look like misers determined to take it away. Conservatives rightly deplore many details in these sweeping legislative packages. But like many politicians, the public hasn’t read the legislation either and instead focuses on the contrast between liberal “reformers” and conservatives who would rather leave things broken.

The GOP’s only hope comes from bold conservative governors, like Wisconsin’s Scott Walker, Ohio’s John Kasich, Kansas’ Sam Brownback and, yes, New Jersey’s Chris Christie, who are making a discernible impact on the lives of their citizens. The 30 Republican governors—especially in the 24 states where they control both houses of their legislatures—don’t have the luxury of sacrificing themselves on the national stage for the purity of their principles. They have no choice but to face up to the grubby, imperfect business of governance. If only those in Congress would follow their lead.

In 1955, William F. Buckley Jr. memorably defined conservatism as a willingness to “stand athwart history yelling Stop.” At the current juncture, with the road ahead perilous and uncertain, it still makes sense to slow onrushing traffic. But yelling “Stop” isn’t enough. The GOP must supplement that warning by offering clear directions for a better route to American revival.

A version of this column appeared first in the WALL STREET JOURNAL.

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  1. toby white  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 5:24 pm

    I mostly agree, but this stand by Cruz has been the first time that the public has been awakened to what is really going on. it is utterly self defeating to let the dems and press spin all the bad news. the amplitude of the debate has forced even the dems and press to share more truth. And, the repubs are watching people make stands, not last stands, which is galvanizing support. As to useless tactics… being the gentlemen in room, observing decorum and Senate and House rules… lets’ see… 4 or 5 million voters failed to vote for McCain and Romney… and the list goes on. it is a losing strategy and tactic. More of the same (our day has not come) will get us more of the same (some day we will get back in power). It was the brashness of the vocal and pugnatious Tea Party that shifted the house not gentlemen Gramnesty of SC and his ‘good friend” John surrender McCain.

    • Marie  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 11:02 pm

      Amen, Toby. The “gentlemen’s war” advocated by Michael is what is losing elections, not leaders like Cruz. The Republicans are perceived as weaklings and easily taken advantage of, so conservatives have lost heart because everyone is cowardly. The House was not won by gentlemen in 2010.

    • Eric  •  Sep 30, 2013 at 12:54 am

      I agree

    • Gary Liniger  •  Sep 30, 2013 at 8:30 pm

      The ONLY reason Republicans have the House is because of gerrymandering. The far left and right will ruin this country.

  2. gregg francisco  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    Well said. This has been my exact argument on both issues. I only wish I were as elegant.

  3. Pam Shumway  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    You don’t seem to feel the way we do, Mr Medved. We’re descended from the Pilgrims, the refugees from Europe w only the shirts on their backs, from the Founders, from the American pioneers, from John Brown, from the Holocaust. We’ve reached the highest degree of Mazlow’s and Erikson’s hierarchy of needs. Principles are worth dying for when a great country is this adrift. Why do Jews always give in? God has to whip your wimpy selves back into shape over & over for centuries. We want to revolt against the talking sloths in Washington. We don’t care anymore about gaining ground thru puny legislative compromise & peeling out from the bushes to see how we’re faring. So stop musing about unstunning little possiblities if this & if that… Just STOP w the fraidy-cat “silly you” advice. It’s disgusting. I’d rather lose in open rebellion. It’s not snout winning or losing as much as it is standing for something. Thank you, Ted Cruz & Mike Lee.

  4. Jim  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    I agree with you, what they’re doing is just silly. What I’d like to see happen is for all conservatives, voters and networks to stop calling ACA Obamacare. He didn’t design or write the law. When conservatives thought they could use it against Obama that was fine. That opportunity failed. Now, a more accurate name should be universally applied, “Democrat Care”. Since Obama didn’t write it and no republican voted for it, the Democrats should own it!

    It is highly unlikely there won’t be more fowl ups, so letting Obama take the hit is wasting an opportunity to force the Democrats to own their own legislation when it’s failing. I think that could make a difference in 2014 and 2016.

    • Michael Ogden  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 6:37 pm

      I’m not sure it’s just silly to take a stand on Constitutional conservatism. It does point out that there actually is such a thing. And we sure shouldn’t be looking the other way when the rules of the game (otherwise known as the ACA law as it was passed) are changed daily to accommodate the needs of certain people (like Congress and the Senate when they finally discovered they were covered under the law).

      However, you are spot on when you suggest we blame the people most responsible for this disaster–the Democrats who unanimously voted for it. Obama can take the hit without serious damage……except to his turbo-charged narcissistic ego. Things really must happen at the ballot box, as difficult as that is becoming as the majority become dependent on the government for their subsistence. In the meantime, as painful as it is going to be, we’re going to have to endure the wreck and find out how bad our injuries are afterwards.

      • Michael Edinburgh  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 11:21 pm

        It’s not a “stand on constitutional conservatism”. It’s the exact OPPOSITE! Since when is it conservative to take a position that only will make you feel better but has 0, nil, nada, chance of actually succeeding legislatively? That’s Feel Good politics. Results trump feels. The Libs go on feelings. Conservatives are supposed to stand for reality, not feelings.
        Second, the constitutional framers NEVER EVER intended for one branch of the government to threaten to shut down the entire system in opposition to a legally passed piece of legislation. That is, in fact, opposite of what the framers spoke of over and over in the Federalist Papers.
        Conservatism calls for real solutions that work in the real world to make the country better. ObamaCare is a disaster, but it’s a legally adopted disaster and must be opposed in ways that can change the law – not just make us feel like “well, we put up a good fight”. Which in reality it’s not – a good fight has a chance of winning. Obama can veto anything at this point and we don’t have the constitutional power to over-ride that yet. We may in the future. But the TeaParty and Conservatism will be reduced to a discredited fringe and Obama will spend the remainder of his term unopposed if we perpetuate a shut down in the House. It’s not “fear” or “go along to get along”. It’s the facts. That’s conservative.

  5. Michael Edinburgh  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    This strategy of the Cruz-led GOP group is the exact same strategy as the man in Tunisia who lit him self on fire in protest to start the Arab Spring. He killed himself to make a point. Except the “kill your signature legislation or we’ll shut down the govt” strategy will destroy the TeaParty and the conservative movement. This will only serve to reduce the conservative movement to an angry fringe, not winning anything going forward. This is why Obama/Reid are absolutely laughing and loving all this. It serves them.

    This strategy cannot defund ObamaCare because of that pesky Constitution. We conservatives should respect the constitution. The strategy of “defund existing regulation” or we will shut down the government is not what the Founders intended.
    Cruz is brilliantly promoting himself even though he knows he can’t win for the GOP. Those who are following this are re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic and hailing Cruz for the wonderful design of the chairs.

    • Bob Gray  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 6:40 pm

      This strategy can defund Obamacare if Republicans in the Senate would stay united. You do not understand the Constitution because it allows for the House to defund or change any existing law. I suggest you read or listen to Mark Levin and you would know this.

      • Gary Liniger  •  Sep 30, 2013 at 8:32 pm

        Mark Levin—ROFLMOA

    • Pam Shumway  •  Sep 28, 2013 at 11:46 pm

      Michael, your position is either loosey-goosey stringy thinking or I wasn’t a lit teacher for 3 decades, bc your argument is hard to follow. You need transitions. I assume you read the Federalist Papers bc you based some point on them. If you’ve read the documents that gave birth to the Constitution, you would certainly hang every argument on the fact that the branch of govt responsible for the purse is the House. Obama has circumvented, spurned, & violated that Constitutional law. Don’t you think that persistent provocation is rather upsetting to marginalized US? “Reality” also consists of the treacherous PROCESS Democrats used to pass this pernicious law to which they have shut their ears in regard to our continuous protestations. Cruz made them listen. 21 hrs & 19 minutes he hung himself on principle. Most Republicans just bloviate & do nothing. The down-&-dirty Democrats’ procedural tricks in passing Democare were so devious that Americans shouldn’t feel honor bound to obey. If you’ll recall, Democare was NOT going to pass the Senate w 60 votes. So little honey-pot carrier Harry used a specious ploy called the nuclear option, and insanely got Demo-nocare thru on a blizzard-driven Christmas Eve w a simple majority wo one Republican vote. He broke the spirit of the law to impose a healthcare system that ruins the plan i have. Those socialist junkies never asked the American people once they were elected whether we wanted a mangled healthcare plan or whether we wanted jobs. That bill was on the internet for all of 72 hrs & I was livid after reading 425 pp, especially when I came to the Independent Payment Advisory Board! You know what? If someone shoved ants down my throat, I would loathe the person who tried to make me like them. I would attack that person as viciously as I knew how. Stop talking about tepid strategies that are “reality” or opposition that has to produce guaranteed results. There are countless examples in history of victories against overwhelming odds. In fact I would say that observation pretty well depicts “real” Americans.

  6. Bob Gray  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    Long time listener; but I disagree with your reaction to Cruz & Lee. I am done with the likes of McCain and other unreliable RINO’s. What Cruz has done is pinpoint who they are. We must first defeat them in primaries or they make it to the general elections refuse to vote for them. Therefore, we will have a more difficult time in ’14 taking over the Senate. First take out the RINO’s and then the dimwits. Mark Levin, Rush and Hannity, along with Glenn Beck are more on target then you are here. That is probably why their ratings are higher.

    • Michael Ogden  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 6:47 pm

      Glad you put Mark Levin at the head of that class, which is where he belongs. The king of Constitutional conservatism without a close second. That being said, I doubt his ratings approach those of Michael due to his delivery. I understand it–he’s angry that the Constitution is being urinated upon. Michael has a much better chance of reaching out to more people. In their own ways, each of them earn my one of my votes for favorite radio personalities.

      • Bob Gray  •  Sep 28, 2013 at 1:07 am rates Rush, Hannity, Beck & Levin all in the top ten. Medved is 27th.

    • Marie  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 11:07 pm

      Yes, Bob. I find it hard to listen to Michael now because he sides with the wimps who “cave in” on every point. The answer from these guys always is WAIT…wait until we take the presidency (didn’t happen)…wait for the Supreme Court decision (went against us)…wait until 2014 when we take the Senate (might or might not happen)…wait for the 2016 election (if we have another RINO, that won’t happen either).

      • Michael Edinburgh  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 11:44 pm

        So Marie, how would you feel about all of us showing up in front of the senate, lighting ourselves on fire (literally) in protest of ObamaCare? Think that will get us very far (other than 1st degree burns and a jail sentence)?
        It’s the same strategy that shutting down the government to try and persuade Harry Reid and Obama to defund ObamaCare. It’s killing the influence of the Tea Party and conservatives going forward…for what?

        Marie, is there any chance at all, even a tiny little minute chance, that there is ANYTHING that Republicans can do at this moment to defund ObamaCare in the REAL WORLD? If so, please tell me as I cannot find it given our Constitution – unless you want to abandon our constitution as it seems so many are ready to do on this ObamaCare issue. If you have 0 percent chance of winning a battle, is is a good idea to live to fight another day or is it better to surrender and lose the war? If our side shuts down the government, then you are throwing all your forces against one battle and sacrificing the long term war. Our side is finished if that happens and we will have no one to blame but ourselves and our ignorant tactics.

  7. Dave Wiltsee  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    How many constituent groups can one party lose forever in the space of one month? Let’s see … Hispanics — bye bye. Ditto the medically underserved (or shafted by the current “system” and glad to have Obamacare). Female voters. Seniors. Older baby boomers. Caregivers. Medical professionals. Younger people up to age 26 able to stay on parents’ insurance plan while otherwise uninsured. Younger people generally, the vast majority of whom will never be registered GOPers.

    • Michael Edinburgh  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 11:38 pm

      If the GOP shuts the govt down (and that’s precisely what it will be as every single poll reveals), then as you say, we’ve lost any influence going forward. This tactic is basically surrendering to Obama. It’s EXACTLY what he wants.

  8. James F  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Like Mark Davis said this morning “If you’re down three touchdowns in the third quarter it’s time to abandon the ground game and start throwing some long passes.” Ten years ago making reforms in bits and pieces was an OK strategy. We’re past that now thanks to Bush and Obama. We’re headed off the fiscal cliff and the CBO said Obamacare is going to make us bankrupt. We need to take this country back from the statists on both sides of the aisle and Obamacare is the battleground of my choosing. Like Patrick Henry said “Give me liberty or give me death!”

    • Michael Edinburgh  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 11:37 pm

      Your analogy is flawed. This is not 3 downs in the third quarter. Not by a long shot. This is the first few minutes of the game and we have the reserve team that can take the field in the fall of next year, if the team still exists by then. When we are not 1/3 of the legislative process, we will have more power and take the ball back and advance it down the field. A better analogy is that it’s the first quarter of the game and the other team has advanced alot so we throw a temper tantrum and tell the ref that we are holding onto the ball until the other side gives us 50 free yards.
      The only way to take the country back from the statists (which I agree we must do) is to not be stupid and shut the govt down so that no one ever takes us seriously again.

      • James F  •  Sep 28, 2013 at 5:34 am

        You sound like you’ve been talking to Karl Rove. The last guvmint shutdown was far from a disaster for Republicans although it was portrayed as such. I know Obama is more stubborn than Clinton but eventually he will cave because Obamacare is so unpopular. He will end up delaying the individual mandate and Republicans will be able to campaign on Obamacare’s failure. It’s a win-win.

    • Gary Liniger  •  Sep 30, 2013 at 8:34 pm

      The CBO said no such thing.

  9. Scott B  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    Michael, the establishment GOP have not been getting it done. Running McCain, (the perpetual presidential candidate) or very creepy Romney (Another previous presidential primary loser) I honestly believe that the establishment GOP and you want the ACA. You know how hard it is to pry a government give away out of people’s hands. It’s NEVER been done. The DOE has yet to teach one kid to read, Medicare is astronomically more expensive than anyone thought it would ever be, but those programs remain in their places just like the useless and lethargic establishment GOP. You know once the ACA is in, it’s not going anywhere. You and the other 25 pathetic sniveling political cowards as far as I am concerned are like dinosaurs, and it’s time for you to move on and become gas in the tanks of our cars. Because we actually love our country and are prepared to fight for it and not vote for cloture on a bill that gives 20 percent of our economy to morons. I will still buy your history lessons I like them very much. I loved the WW I. But as far as politics; you’re a Chamberlain.

    • Michael Edinburgh  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 11:26 pm

      First of all, you have no clue whatsoever what I want. That’s a ridiculous statement. Second, you are confusing the goal with the tactic. I agree with the goal of ridding the country of this horrible disaster called ObamaCare. But I’m unwilling to set myself on fire in front of the capital to protest it because it will accomplish nothing and I won’t live to fight another day.
      You are not fighting for the country. You are handing it, wrapped in a bow, to Obama and the leftists. You are walking straight into an ambush that will resurrect the Obama presidency. Walking into an ambush is a noble sacrifice if you can accomplish something by it – but all you do is eliminate any chance of defeating ObamaCare in the future by committing suicide today.
      Tell me – if you think it’s a good strategy, then just answer this: How can you get ObamaCare defunded if Obama is the President? If you say that you think you can force him into it, then I have some swamp land in florida for you….

  10. rodger clarke  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    Why do we need another massive government program, one that was passed without a thorough review? Even Pelosi was right about this mess. Would anyone buy a car while blindfolded?

    • Michael Edinburgh  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 11:32 pm

      Of course not. We should work to get rid of it. But we should be smart about how we do it – not just run off half-cocked in a self-destructive rampage that has no chance of success.

      A smart competitor picks the time and place of their battle that gives them the best advantage and opportunity to accomplish their goals in the real world.
      Just flailing our hands around and calling it “courage” or “standing on principle” is neither courageous nor principled. In fact, it’s ignorant and violates the principles the person flailing about claims to espouse because it lessens the chance of success. Those who doing this are abandoning conservative principles and just making themselves get PR and feel better and are sacrificing the REAL chances that we have to deal with ObamaCare as conservatives. Utter foolishness.

  11. T. Kelley  •  Sep 27, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    As a fiscally conservative independent with 8 grandchildren , I know the Dems will never face up to our debt crisis. I am convinced that the only way we can make progress in facing up to the tough decisions to avoid a future U.S. “bankruptcy type scenario” and subsequent turmoil is to at least gain control of both House & Senate. With the national demographics ,the entrenched perceptions of the GOP, the memory of the Iraq invasion fiasco, “social issues” & the media support for Dems, it is unlikely that a Repub. can be elected Pres. With the Repub. Party’s split personality between hard line Conservatives and the more moderate cohort, it will be even more difficult. Regarding immigration reform, most Hispanics will vote Dem.regardless. We only need immigrants with intellectual or real “capital’ ! “Chain” immigration of poor families will continue to lower the standard of living for U.S.society.And, we must stop incentivizing women ( especially the underclass) to produce out of wedlock kids that will essentially be a lifetime burden on our Taxpayers! (Thanks to LBJ’s ” War On Poverty “)

  12. John Morton Jones  •  Sep 28, 2013 at 2:57 am

    The Republican “base” is about 25% of the electorate and I’m a member. The “base,” however, is throwing a tantrum that will insure Dem control of the Senate (and perhaps even the House) in 2015. That will “save” Obama’s ACA to be fought in the Presidential campaign of 2016 (assuming the Party remains alive enough by then to conduct a campaign). At this juncture, the occupants of the White House must be jumping for joy. Kipling cheered at the courage shown in the charge of the Light Brigade, but we know how that turned out.

  13. Dick Nuetzel  •  Sep 28, 2013 at 8:14 am

    When was the last time a gov. program was repealed? Doesn’t happen. Now is the time to take a stand. 2ndly our Rino leaders assume that Democrats control the press every time and all of the time. Obamacare is a trainwreck and most people now know this. They would side with the conservatives. Re immigration reform, Medvid implies conservatives are opposed. Most of us are not opposed. We simply want to be sure the flow of new illegals entering our country is STOPPED before we “reform” the law. One final unrelated thought. I wonder how much better Romney would have done in the elction had Sarah Palin been his running mate?

    • Gary Liniger  •  Sep 30, 2013 at 8:38 pm

      Sarah Palin as running mate- roflmao

  14. Diane  •  Sep 28, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    Michael, please read column in today’s American Thinker: “Remember to Unplug the Refrigerator, Conservatives”….you will have a better understanding of what Cruz did (is doing) and why so many Americans are inspired and greatly encouraged by him:

    • Gary Liniger  •  Sep 30, 2013 at 8:39 pm

      Cruz is doing it to get the Republican nomination. lol

  15. OhSoBored  •  Sep 28, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Sorry Mr. Medved, the only sure loser here is to listen to your political advice, which if I am not mistaken, has consistently been the losing bet over the past several elections cycles. Your record on choosing winners is nothing to brag about, which raises the question, why should we listen to you?
    So, seriously? You want us to delay “its more obnoxious aspects”?
    Do you and the weak Republican leadership want to continue losing elections? You want to postpone the implementation of this disaster Obamacare until AFTER THE NEXT ELECTION and give the Democrats the opportunity to win more seats before the effects and pain are felt. If you don’t win elections, you get no say at the table. This has got to be some of the dumbest advice you have ever given. I am this close to giving up on you and the weak Republican leadership. And another thing, I am getting tired of you accepting the liberal characterization of the Republican who opposes illegal immigration. You consistently comment on how hard working Mexicans are as if we don’t already know that, and then liken our concern over illegal immigration as if it were out of fear they are ethnically different. I, we, want them to immigrate to the U.S., but we want them to do so legally. You offend me every time you repeat that liberal dirty trick as if it were real. Calling or suggesting someone is a racist is liberal trick to shut debate down. I expect better from you.

  16. Alex  •  Sep 28, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    Love the show Michael, but your wrong on this. We knew from the start this movement to defund Obamacare wasn’t going to go anywhere, in the end we fully expect Ted Cruz and Boehner to quietly concede and not shut down the government. But they still need to fight this law on the national stage with everything they have, because in 2014 when healthcare costs double and Americans cant see a physician, we’ll want every voter in America to remember that Ted Cruz stood on stage for 21 hours trying to stop this. We’ll want them to remember Republicans did absolutely everything they could to try and stop this law, and hopefully, they’ll remember Republicans stood united in that stalwart, and yes, stubborn opposition to the Unaffordable Care Act.

  17. Dave  •  Sep 29, 2013 at 5:38 am

    Spoken like a true LEFTIST RINO.

  18. Eric  •  Sep 30, 2013 at 12:53 am

    mr cruz , fight on , shut down the government . The average american has no idea what obamacare is . That will be great full .

  19. Jim Dean  •  Sep 30, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Michael, you are my favorite, BUT…you are wrong about what Cruz and the majority of other Republicans (not Senators, of course) are doing. We, the GOP, do not care if the government is shut down for a week, a month or a year. Whether it’s Obamacare or the incredible debts being racked up by the Democrats, we must stop the madness now and not kick the can down the road for our kids or grandkids to solve. At the end of the day, “intelligent” people will blame Obama, Reid and Pelosi, and not the true conservatives, for this mess. If “intelligent” people blame the GOP, then they are not so “intelligent” and are, more likely than not, “ignorant.”

    • Gary Liniger  •  Sep 30, 2013 at 8:43 pm

      Do you have investments? Do you own a business? If the debt ceiling is not lncreased and government shuts down for a year you will have NOTHING!

  20. Joseph Bielecki  •  Sep 30, 2013 at 11:22 am

    I find it interesting that very rarely Michael Medved resorts to name calling when his arguments are cogent. When his position is less based on principle, he chooses words like ‘loser’ or ‘losertarian’ or ‘silly’ or ‘stupid’ or ‘self-defeatist’. Lately, Michael probably rants more about thoses who are more conservative than he does about the real problem: liberals.

  21. Jim Donahue  •  Oct 3, 2013 at 12:29 am

    Michael I only here you from 2:30 on so I know I don’t have a full picture, and I try and give good faith. Yet your prohibition analogy seems flawed on several counts. Thousands died during prohibition, we still have the legacy of organized crime even after appeal. It is the same players who believe the government knows better. I think the better analogies are ssi and medicare the budget busters we live with now. The left will only complain that we haven’t gone far enough. When they lost the white house 49 states to one there was no talk of liberalism being dead. I enjoy your mind I can’t follow your reasoning, you say the president won the election, yet the conservatives won in the house, the bill is unpopular and another budget buster, is there no limit to the debt ceiling, just focus on winning the white house. This is the 17th. government shut down since the 70’s are only the ones from the right the end of the world? I don’t know the right tactic William Wilberforce went down a losing hopeless battle for 26 years all the reasonable people said it was a paper chase, yet it worked. If the position is right why so much energy on tactics, we are great at shooting our selves in the foot, while help pointing the gun? Why not point out that the President and Harry Reid are willing to drive the country over the edge for ideology which you believe is wrong headed? Last year spending levels aren’t a real compromise maybe 2008 adjusted for inflation. Thanks for your precious time.

  22. James B. Davis  •  Oct 14, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    Michael Medved appears to be veering sharply to the left, which after all is where he came from. He says he is a conservative but berates and bashes true conservatives like Ted Cruz regularly. His major policy recommendation for Republicans is to surrender on everything, i.e. illegal immigration, health care reform, while statistics show that this only increases the number of voters on the left. He has too many liberal guests on his show and lets them bad mouth conservatives without comment or rebuke. He is absolutely in love with John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Chris Cristie, all faux conservatives who don’t belong in the Republican party.

    After years of listening, I am turning Michael Medved off permanently. His diatribes against our standard bearers and support for those who would bring us down, just make me angry. I am hopeful that his move to the left will be his undoing and that his voice will become a faint whisper in the history of talk radio.

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