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Does Sunny Summer Weather Mean Catastrophic Climate Change?

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Timothy Eagan, New York Times columnist and my fellow Seattleite, sees our dry weather this summer as a frightening sign of catastrophic climate change. Writing of our lovely, verdant Northwest he declares: “We may lose this. The current heat is a precursor, an early peek at a scary tomorrow.” Actually, we’ve received 16 inches of rainfall since January 1st of this year, compared to 19 inches in an average year – not really a shocking difference. What’s more, last year by this time we’d received 27 inches of precipitation – a full 8 inches above average. More rainfall than usual one year, then slightly less than usual the next year, isn’t indication of a worrisome long-term trend. Leave it to the left to decry pleasant weather in a beautiful section of the country in order to advance their political agenda. Now, when it comes to weak batting by the disappointing Seattle Mariners, I can join Tim Eagan in deep concern.

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  1. Bill Warford  •  Jul 7, 2015 at 11:13 pm

    And yet the left will mock anyone who points out brutally cold winters, late springs, or below average temperatures in making the case against the global warming narrative.

    • Lynne Polelle  •  Jul 8, 2015 at 3:44 pm

      Another science fantasy about the left.

    • Kpar  •  Jul 12, 2015 at 4:45 pm

      Don’t you know the difference between “weather” and “climate”? You terrible person, you!

      Sarc off…

  2. Bill p  •  Jul 8, 2015 at 1:28 am

    Transient weather does not prove nor disprove global warming. However, climate change theory does predict extreme weather. Climate is a long term global average while weather is mostly localized and can vary over short periods of time. We ignore climate change at our peril.

    • mark scott  •  Jul 9, 2015 at 3:09 pm

      We ignore climate change at our peril. That presupposes that we (the human race) have any control over the climate, whether during a week, a month, a year, a decade or a century. Our impact on Earths climate is the big question. And even if it is getting warmer, as many believe, is that necessarily a bad thing? Sure, some beachfront property may be lost, but it also might improve agriculture for parts of the world that today lack the right growing temperatures for certain fruits and vegetables. We know the Earth has both cooled and been hotter. All during times when humans were not present. And the other big question is, just what is it that the countries of the world are supposed to do to try to cool down a heating up planet? Any suggestions? I doubt outside air conditioners or driving a car with the A/C on and the windows down will do the trick.

      • Kpar  •  Jul 12, 2015 at 4:51 pm

        I am certain that if we only give up our soverieignty, control over our lives, and pay more taxes, WE can control the weather!

        But who is we? And are we nuts? Or stupid?

      • Sela  •  Jul 12, 2015 at 6:12 pm


  3. Sean Flynn  •  Jul 8, 2015 at 10:10 am

    “Leave it to the left to decry pleasant weather in a beautiful section of the country in order to advance their political agenda.”

    And the political right will do likewise if there’s a heavy snowstorm or cold spell. No difference.

    Not much of a story here.

    • janeflaherty  •  Jul 10, 2015 at 6:56 pm

      What do you mean??

  4. Sean Flynn  •  Jul 8, 2015 at 10:15 am

    The Seattle Mariners have the misfortune of being in a good division. They’ll never catch the Houston Astros or even the LA Angels, now matter how good or bad their hitting is.

    If Seattle was in the AL East, they’d only be 5 games out of first place. Not too far back. Fully able to catch up if they put together 7 or 8 wins in a row.

    Frankly, I don’t like the division system in MLB (or any other sport). I think they should simply have no divisions and at the end of the season have the top 4 or 5 or whatever teams make the playoffs. As it is, sometimes division winners have worse records than wild card teams or even teams that don’t make the post season at all.

  5. Lynne Polelle  •  Jul 9, 2015 at 11:46 am

    The “sunny weather” , as Michael describes the ongoing drought here in the west, is probably not as important as the loss of 90 cubic miles of ice each year and the 16-foot rise in sea levels. But let’s talk about Creationism instead.

    • Kristopher Marshal  •  Jul 9, 2015 at 10:28 pm

      16 feet. I think not, as that would be up to the white letters on my Expedition’s tires here in Long Beach CA. Remember, the Pacific atolls were all predicted to be swimming by now.

    • Jim Riley  •  Jul 12, 2015 at 4:47 pm

      Sea Level rise in South Florida has been about 4″ in the past forty years at the water canal control structure S-197( tail water/downstream). This structure is located in the C-111 canal and discharges to tide (no structures between it and the ocean. Check the SFWMD dbhydro records for confirmation (dont take my word for it). Not saying that is the final answer but it gives us a good handle on the order of magnitude for sea level rise as that is fairly accurate data at a structure that has been in place for 40 years. I dont follow on your comment on 16 ft rise in sea level .

      We may have a real problem looming in the future but mocking people (“lets talk about creationism”) doesnt help us have an open discussion that could lead to solutions/coping strategies for climate change.

  6. Mark Denzer  •  Jul 10, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    There IS NO DEBATE that the ocean has risen 400 feet (120 meters) in the last 20,000 years. That is an average per century of 24 inches. That is right……an average of 24 inches rise, in 100 years. The current rise is 1/3 of that, at about 8 inches. But this neither proves nor disproves whether the CURRENT change is human caused or not. So let’s stop calling each other names. Too bad there are so few real scientists and so many fake ones.

    • Bill D  •  Jul 10, 2015 at 3:27 pm

      But plenty of DEBATE about the cause. No one would seriously make the case that anthropogenic climate change existed 20,000 years ago, and yet somehow it’s considered settled science today by the socalled scientists and politicians?!? Better to spend our $$ on how to cope than how to stop it, or force upon industries expensive steps that have little impact. The law of diminishing returns applies and should not be ignored, especially when meaningful actions can be taken to mitigate hunger and lack of clean water around the world – both bigger and more immediate problems.

  7. Mary Buder  •  Jul 10, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    I have yet to hear anyone’s theories regarding why the climate of the earth was very hot and CO2 levels were very high before humans even inhabited the earth. The climate of the earth has always been changing and will continue to do so. (Remember the ice age?)
    Also, it seems to me to be that the climate change alarmists just assume that we humans can change the weather if we just use the right light bulbs and drive the right cars. Hmmm…
    I believe that it should always be a goal for us to be good stewards of the planet, but the government is just looking for new ways to tax us, and scaring people is a good way. Humans can adapt. They always have. It would be great if we could ever have an intelligent discussion about this issue without people having a fit if you dare to question the popular opinion and screeching “climate change denier!”. Believe it or not, there are still a lot of dissenting opinions among the leading scientists regarding climate change and whether we can have any impact on it. I just hope they don’t get intimidated and silenced, which seems to be a common practice these days if you don’t follow the masses.

    • T Bray  •  Jul 12, 2015 at 11:01 am

      Perfect. Well stated.

    • Lynne Polelle  •  Jul 12, 2015 at 8:27 pm

      No, Mary, there isn;t a lot of dissent among leading scientists, although I think you like to think so. As I pointed out, the most famous denier was being paid big bucks by the energy industry to play that denier role. Also, you seem to be the one who is expressing a lot of fear.

  8. Keith Royer  •  Jul 10, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    According to the seashells high on the cliffs at the Oregon coast we still have quite a ways to go before we reach the previous high water mark. The climate is going to change. It always has, and it always will.

  9. Joe Frost  •  Jul 10, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    If global climate warming change ( or whatever it is called this year ) is caused by humans perhaps we should strive for fewer humans. A humane way of doing this might be that humans only reproduce those offspring that the can take care of financially, emotionally,educationally,medically,and in all the rest of what it takes to rise a child ( ie. food , shelter and the basics ). Gee , this could lead to less government. Or stated another way…..what is the “carbon footprint ” of a new human on this planet ? )

  10. Scott Noble  •  Jul 10, 2015 at 4:32 pm

    Fear. The purpose of elevating fear is to disrupt the normal processes to evaluate truth from fiction, and it has a kicker, it passes an offering basket just like a preacher, sometimes in the form of your vote.

    I recommend all those worried more about the weather, climate change (silly defensible name) and global warning to sell everything and donate everything including their time to the “cause”. I mean go All In if you are a follower and believer.

    There are somettimes hard to find truths. This is one. It depends on the spand of years into whether we are warming or cooling. That simple. It is also undefinable as to humans make a material effect at all. Modeling. Figures can lie and liars can figure.

    There are those that feel Chicagos inner city battle w family values, education and the 300% more deaths than all of our wars since 1980 are more important than speculation and fear.

    I was mentored to help locally first. Them regionally if lucky. Them Nationally if very lucky.

    I suggest you quit naming rain and snow showers and look at where the most snow is, on your own family roof and community at large. Reform there first and the weather is irrelevant.

    Churches used fear for centuries. Over used them. Now the democrats live in shame of their own tactics.

    Put all of you belongings into that global warming basket and see if any of them attend a funeral in your city.


  11. Steve C  •  Jul 10, 2015 at 5:24 pm

    This is why people are so gullible… No year the weather is the same. One year it’s warmer, the next its colder. One year it’s drier and the next its weather.. Look at the stats for the last 100 plus years and you will see that.. The main question. the drought that hit middle America in the 1920 / 1930’s, lasted for almost 10 years, did we say the country was going into Global Warming??? Those were some of hottest temps ever for this country and the lack of water..Remember the dust bowl… In the mid 1970’s the country had the coldest winters and we were thinking about the Ice Age, within 2 years the temps changed… So for those naive people who listen to people who make money when they bark.
    There are scientists that say things one way and things the other way, no one is sure.. If they are so sure, why is our president taking the main plane that wastes more gasoline on one flight than the average American uses in driving in one year.. This is just being used for campaigning.. Stupid people listen to stupid people…

  12. Beano  •  Jul 10, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    Leftist and liberals are crybabies. In Winter time they will say the same thing in reverse, the planet is freezing, we are all going to die. I don’t want to be a popsicle they’ll say. Hand over all your money, btw.

  13. Lynne Polelle  •  Jul 11, 2015 at 11:03 am

    I can see here that all of the money that wealthy energy companies have donated to the cause of climate change denial has, to some extent, done it’s work. $79,000.000 plus since 1979 is pretty impressive, at least you haven’t been bought off easily.

    Willie Soon, who was one of America’s leading climate change deniers and a prominent researcher at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics was generously funded by energy players – was funded almost entirely by the energy industry, receiving more than $1.2m from companies, lobby groups and oil billionaires over more than a decade, newly released documents show.

    Over the last 14 years Willie Soon, a researcher at the Harvard-Smithsonian Centre for Astrophysics, received a total of $1.25m from Exxon Mobil, Southern Company, the American Petroleum Institute (API) and a foundation run by the ultra-conservative Koch brothers, which was proved by documents made available by the FOI act.

    According to the documents, the biggest single funder was Southern Company, one of the country’s biggest electricity providers that relies heavily on coal. the industry’s efforts to block action and education against climate change have proved to be an easy sell to right wingers.

    • lawrence taylor  •  Jul 12, 2015 at 3:23 am

      Lynne you need to read more than your own side. Just because something is funded by an energy company does not mean ipso facto that it will produice a lie. However, we have had mnore than ample evidence that Climate Change mongers have intentionally lied–shame on them. Follow the money on your side and see who is benefitting, Lynne. Ya think if it were true the Energy Companies have no employees who care, who have families, who would sink their own ship. Use your head and stop with the “right winger” stuff it is like saying “boogie man” Read some of the other posts you might learn something beside what comes from MSNBC. My Socialist Network Broadcsting Company. Wake up and look at the results in Greece. Socialism is great until you run out of other people’s money. PM “Education against climante change” more like indoctrination which is happening in every single school in the US, and a constant barrage of this trivia on every media outlet. Get a life–get some facts. When “global warming” turned out to be false over the last decades you folks started on the climate change fear tactics. Climate always changes, always has, duh! I guess it is just easier to scare people when their is change in temperature either way it seems to prove your point, right? In the 60’s science was warning of an Ice Age by now. Science is OBSERVABLE FACT, not predicitons based on phoney and inaccurate hypotheticals

      • Kpar  •  Jul 12, 2015 at 6:09 pm

        Excellent response, LT! I could not have said it better!

      • Lynne Polelle  •  Jul 12, 2015 at 8:31 pm

        First of all, Lawrence, your post seems to be a rather messy amalgam of supposition, opinion, Socialism (!??) public schools, and above all, some pretty vague generalizations. People do, in fact, leave their jobs at energy companies for ethical reasons. I know a few, and they have told me it is not uncommon.

        If you can back any of this up with reliable sources, and links, I will do the same.

      • Lynne Polelle  •  Jul 17, 2015 at 11:34 am

        The warming of the oceans due to climate change is now unstoppable after record temperatures last year, bringing additional sea-level rise, and raising the risks of severe storms, US government climate scientists said on Thursday.
        The annual State of the Climate in 2014 report, based on research from 413 scientists from 58 countries, found record warming on the surface and upper levels of the oceans, especially in the North Pacific, in line with earlier findings of 2014 as the hottest year on record.

        Global sea-level also reached a record high, with the expansion of those warming waters, keeping pace with the 3.2 ± 0.4 mm per year trend in sea level growth over the past two decades, the report said.

        Scientists said the consequences of those warmer ocean temperatures would be felt for centuries to come – even if there were immediate efforts to cut the carbon emissions fuelling changes in the oceans.

        “I think of it more like a fly wheel or a freight train. It takes a big push to get it going but it is moving now and will continue to move long after we continue to pushing it,” Greg Johnson, an oceanographer at Noaa’s Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory, told a conference call with reporters.

        “Even if we were to freeze greenhouse gases at current levels, the sea would actually continue to warm for centuries and millennia, and as they continue to warm and expand the sea levels will continue to rise,” Johnson said.

        On the west coast of the US, freakishly warm temperatures in the Pacific – 4 or 5F above normal – were already producing warmer winters, as well as worsening drought conditions by melting the snowpack, he said.

        The extra heat in the oceans was also contributing to more intense storms, Tom Karl, director of Noaa’s National Centers for Environmental Information, said.

        The report underlined 2014 as a banner year for the climate, setting record or near record levels for temperature extremes, and loss of glaciers and sea ice, and reinforcing decades-old pattern to changes to the climate system.

        Four independent data sets confirmed 2014 as the hottest year on record, with much of that heat driven by the warming of the oceans.

        Globally 90% of the excess heat caused by the rise in greenhouse gas emissions is absorbed by the oceans.

        More than 20 countries in Europe set new heat records, with Africa, Asia and Australia also experiencing near-record heat. The east coast of North America was the only region to experience cooler than average conditions.

        Alaska experienced temperatures 18F warmer than average. Spring break-up came to the Arctic 20-30 days earlier than the 20th century average.

        “The prognosis is to expect a continuation of what we have seen,” Karl said.

      • Andrew  •  Jul 18, 2015 at 4:34 pm

        Lynne if it’s unstoppable as you say, why bother?

  14. Darwin Wyatt  •  Jul 14, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    The best evidence gw is fallacy is NOAA’s seldom talked about pristine data. Anyone can google it and see the ten year trend line plummeting. On top of the rss showing 18.5 years. The best argument the idiots have to counter it is clouds register cooler! I kid you not!

    • Lynne Polelle  •  Jul 18, 2015 at 3:10 pm

      It’s clear that those who distrust science will not consider any facts that rebut their ideas.

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