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Steps in the Right Direction on Healthcare

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Republican Senator Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, one of the most widely respected members of either House of Congress, has begun negotiating a last-ditch healthcare reform that deserves bipartisan support. His approach urges Republicans to extend insurance subsidies under Obamacare to prevent an imminent explosion in health insurance costs. In return, Democrats would go along with giving states much broader leeway in deregulating insurance options under Obamacare, allowing lower cost policies without the expensive requirements in current federal law.

Such a compromise could protect all Americans from wrenching changes in the cost or coverage of their current policies, while providing many customers with wider, better choices in the policies they choose. This may not mean complete “repeal and replace” but it does move the government in the right direction.

The opposing idea, that Republicans would triumph by letting Obamacare implode, makes no sense. No party has ever built its base by inflicting intentional pain on the electorate.

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  1. Jim Bird  •  Aug 7, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    Obama inflicked intentional pain on America – YOU MAKE NO SENSE! What in hell about are talking about. Prices will plummet when BOcare crashes and burns. The GOP AGREED WITH THE PEOPLE FOR 7 YEARS BUT NOW THEY'RE CUTTING DEALS WITH PATTY MURRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll TELL WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN YOU DISGUSTING LIARS, THERE WILL BE NO MORE REPUBLICAN PARTY. UNBELIEVABLE – THE GOP NEVER STOPS GIVING UP TO THE THUG PARTY – THEY ARE DISGUSTING AND N E V E R EVER WORK WITH THE GOP. WHAT F___ING POLLS ARE YOU LOOKING AT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TOO MANY REPUBLICANS WHO CARE FAR MORE ABOUT THEMSELVES THAN THEIR CONSTITUTES. THE GOP IS INFLICKING THE PAIN, MAKE THAT TORTURE, YOU LIEING SELF-ABSORBED BACK-STABBERS. NO WONDER TRUMP IS ANGRY ON A DAILY BASIS. HE NEVER THOUGHT THE SWAMP WAS THIS BAD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COLLUDING REPUBLICANS. THE IS RIGGED AND DEMS AND REPUBS WANT HIM OUT OF OFFICE AT ANY – THAT IS #1 ON YOUR AGENDA. MOST OF MEDIA, 100% of Hollywood and Michael. It's not healthcare, tax reform, safe borders, terrorism, jobs, no it's get rid of Trump at any cost first so you can expand the swamp of totalitarian rule. The sickness never ends with the violent and arrogant aristocracy.

  2. Jim Bird  •  Aug 7, 2017 at 10:56 pm

    GOT A GREAT IDEA! REPUBLICANS SHUT YOU MOUTHS, NEGOTIATE WITH NO ONE, COMPROMISE WITH NO ONE, CONSULT WITH NO ONE EXCEPT YOUR BOOKIE. LEAVE DC. DO NOT RETURN. NEVER COME BACK.

    LET TRUMP DO WHAT HE WANTS!!! BRILLIANT HUH!! AFTERALL OBAMA DID EXACTLY THAT FOR 8 YEARS!!!! GIVE TRUMP A CHANCE AT BEING A DICTATOR LIKE OBAMA!!!! MCCAIN HAS ALREADY GIVEN HIM THE MONIKER "DICTATOR" – YOU GUYS GUYS CAN KEEP YOU SALARIES, FOUNDATIONS AND KICKBACKS. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT- CHUMP CHANGE. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING ANYMORE.

  3. Truth hurts  •  Aug 7, 2017 at 11:14 pm

    Jim Bird is what the GOP has created; a total wing nut that speaks in hyperbole and ad hominem. Where is the Republican Party of my father?

    • Jim Bird  •  Aug 8, 2017 at 12:42 am

      You bet I'm a wing nut! After 8 years of Obama and the completely deranged unhinged so-called Democratic Party, a world war, terrorism a common occurrence now and race relations now at Jim Crowe levels, you bet I'm crazy, angry and afraid for my family and country. No more Mr. Milk Toast for me, no more campaigning and donating to GOP, and no more listening to the continued lies of the Left who are absolute thugs. This is not a game! If you support the policies of OBAMA and the Clinton's, I'm not interested in debating because you"ll never change. Nothing personal but if you can watch Bill give the bomb and billions to North Korea and Barack do the same with Iran and Hillary watch innocent people be killed in Benghazi because there was an election a month away, and are NOT able to define why these atrocities happened, then we have no grounds upon which communication of any form can take place.

    • Helping Mr. Hurt  •  Aug 9, 2017 at 2:39 pm

      How did the GOP create Jim Bird? Nothing has poisoned American politics more than the massive shift to the left of the democrat party. If you want to blame anybody, blame the democrats for going so far left. Have you read Ty's comments? They are nothing but hyperbole and ad hominem against republicans. Do you blame the GOP for that too?

  4. Ty  •  Aug 8, 2017 at 5:14 am

    Michael: "No party has ever built its base by inflicting intentional pain on the electorate."

    Michael, don't mis-underestimate republican voters.

    • Helping Ty  •  Aug 9, 2017 at 2:34 pm

      Great arguments there. You have proven again that you are full of nothing but ignorance and hate. Bigotry is not a virtue, Ty. The republican positions are just as legitimate as democrat positions, if not more so. Your problem is that you don't understand why republicans take certain positions. Open you mind and quit being such a bigot.

    • Ty  •  Aug 10, 2017 at 2:58 am

      I understand all too well. Most republicans have tricked themselves that their tribe has the right answers and they buy into easy (read lazy) slogans of the right.

      Also, liberals take a much healthier view of government. A useful tool to enhance well being alongside the private sector, not an enemy to be shunned and avoided and treated like some venereal disease.

      This is essentially how republicans react to hearing government is involved in some aspect of society.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopdD9Cu-So

      republican = green lady
      government = the water that put out that fire… but to a republican… well, you see the reaction.

      • Rizzo  •  Aug 10, 2017 at 7:24 pm

        Ty…
        Reactions to some aspect of government involvement? Are you REALLY that f'ing simple-minded?
        Conservatives have a negative reaction to ILLIGITIMATE GOVERNMENT… got it moron?
        ILLIGITIMATE! Government was NEVER intended to be the end-all, be-all solution for EVERYTHING. Your ass-clown nature is SHINING EVER BRIGHTER BY THE DAY!

      • Rizzo  •  Aug 11, 2017 at 8:16 am

        Ty
        There is nothing easy or lazy about how a conservative arrives at the right answer.
        We are students of Americn Exceptionalism. We look at the issues of the day in the context of history. We embrace our heritage, and we love our American way of life.
        We work within the constructs of our Constitutional Republic system.

        Leftists are simple-minded fools. They are reactionary, and they are constantly trying to destroy what came before it. They hate our Constitution, and they seek government with limitless power. They act like history began the day they were born…. as such, they are historical illiterates and are doomed to repeat all the mistakes of the past.

        In short, leftists are pathetic, and they must be defeated. We, TRUE AMERICANS, have no desire to be like Europe. We escaped that failed experiment, and we never want to return.

  5. Nani Tavares  •  Aug 9, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    I've been reading and watching Ben Shapiro and he has made very good points that explains why Socialism is NOT compassionate nor moral.

    Say you have 5 people in a room but only one has money. That person happens to have $5 which divides the money equally as voted by the majority (the four that has no money). Now each person has the same amount. Doesn't that sound FAIR and democratic as all have the same amount and it was decided by the majority. Only the person who had $5 LOST $4 and has NO INCENTIVE to make another $5. How is this so compassionate or moral for the person who had made the $5 and got $4 of it taken away by majority demand?

    He likened Socialism to "rape". What!!??? But think about it, when you force someone to participate that is rape. Capitalism is "consensual" as BOTH parties agree to participate in a transaction. BRILLIANT.

    He stated that no matter how much a person born male believed he was a female, he still can't make that "Y" chromosome disappear or a person born female make the "Y" chromosome appear. He said that each person is entitled to believe what they wanted but had no right to insist that the rest of us participate in their pretending.

    I didn't agree with all his opinions; he tends to be more libertarian than I am. There are some things I believe the government should be involved in such as defense and libertarians tend to want small government at all cost (I'm not saying Ben doesn't believe in defense because he does, just he leans very much to the government staying out of all of our lives). But on the whole, he made some brilliant points because his reasoning is simple but clear.

    Talk about defense. I have, as I am sure, most people, been listening to the North Korea crisis and I am waiting to hear my Liberal relatives rant at Trump's "John Wayne" tough reply to North Korea's threat. I want to ask them, seriously, if they wish that Hillary was now our Commander in Chief. 🙂

    • Jim Bird  •  Aug 10, 2017 at 12:15 am

      Great commentary Nani!

      • Rizzo  •  Aug 10, 2017 at 6:55 pm

        Nani…
        You are absolutely right. I posted this week's ago.
        Leftist socialism, the slime that Ty promotes is tantamount to RAPE.
        Market driven Capitalism is the equivalent to consensual sex.
        Socialism is totally immoral. If you work 40 hours a week, Ty wants to take 20 of it.
        On what moral ground does anyone have the right to steal 50% of your labor and property? Of course, government needs a way to finance its legitimate, limited functions.
        However, what Ty demands is confiscatory taxes to fund ILLIGITMATE government.
        It is 100% immoral and PATHETIC.
        He's a 100% moron!

      • Nani Tavares  •  Aug 10, 2017 at 11:33 pm

        Apologizes Rizzo, must have missed it. It's a very good point, socialism IS rape as it takes without permission and the rapist does think he's entitled to take.

    • Ty  •  Aug 10, 2017 at 3:04 am

      If the guy earns 5 dollars and gives away 4, that is an 80% tax rate, a tax rate so high that in that scenario his earnings are on par with those that do not work at all.

      Now let's look at a less ridiculous example using a high marginal US federal tax rate (excluding state taxes, you can choose what state you live in, and if you CHOOSE to stay in a high tax state you must think it's worth it so stop your complaining).

      guy A makes 5 dollars gross. Taxed at 40%. He takes 3 dollars home. IF those two dollars were equally distributed to 4 other people, they would each get .50

      Now let's ask a question. Is Guy A better off working as he's done before, and earning 3 dollars after taxes, or not work at all and earn none? Perhaps guy A is bitter and spiteful that some of his tax dollars taken from him are being redistributed, so bitter and spiteful that he chooses not to work at all. Is he better off? The answer is no, he is not. He is actually much better off than the people that earn less than him. And he has the same tax rate as poorer people on lower earnings, and poorer people will face the same increases in marginal tax rates if they climb higher, but the rate is not so high that people are worse off or to the point where the extra effort is not worth it most of the time.

      • Nani  •  Aug 10, 2017 at 1:58 pm

        Once again a liberals has shown that he does not get the bigger picture. Liberals pull the "fair" and "compassionate" reasoning and drag out all the anecdotes that justify their thief of something they did not earn and is not theirs. They do not understand that socialism is neither fair nor compassionate. It is rape for it takes something without permission. Capitalism is consensual for it is a mutual agreed upon exchange.

        To answer the insincere question, is the guy better off? (Insincere because do liberals really care if he is bitter and spiteful?) He may feel he is better off JOINING the others who depend on someone else to work and take care of him. Only…sooner or later you run out of guys willing to carry others.

        And sooner or later, the guy says, "What about me? When do MY needs count?" and last but most devastating for Liberals "No. No more."

  6. Nani  •  Aug 10, 2017 at 2:45 pm

    More ranting. The take down Trump at all cost is plain disgusting. One liberal commentator in this morning's "Outnumbered" asked the question: "Are you comfortable with Guam being attacked because of Trump's rhetoric?" One of the others on the panel pointed out that for years, each president talked nice and said all the right things and that didn't stop Kim Jong-un from shooting bombs and now threatening Guam. What I wanted to know is, let us say the liberal was right and that being diplomatic was the way to go, would she be alright with in 5 or less years, the world faces a nuclear Iran? Rogue nations ARE watching and if we give in, why wouldn't we stand for another nation having nukes? Being nice has NOT worked as it never does when dealing with bullies. Asking to consider all the lives that will be lost if America stands up to the bully is like asking if the police understands that the hostage may die if the criminal isn't given a car, money, and a free pass and not thinking about the next dozen hostages the criminal and other criminals will threaten to kill.

    And speaking of standing up. Does the Trump haters get that in not standing with Trump on this, they are sending a message that America is not united or serious in calling out Kim Jong-un? You may hate Trump all you want, you may criticize him until your last breath, but don't you dare, ever, make the president of the United States and the commander of America's forces look weak in his defense of this country and her allies. That is a line that you do not cross.

  7. Lonnie  •  Aug 11, 2017 at 4:30 pm

    What is it with this Jim Bird. Does he just want our country to go up in flames?

    • Jim Bird  •  Aug 11, 2017 at 11:12 pm

      Lonnie,
      The GOP promised the American people for 8 years if you give us the House, Senate and Presidency, we will repeal and replace Obamacare. With a lot of work, money donations and get-out-the-vote knocking on doors exercise the working class in this country gave the GOP exactly what they asked for but Obama wins. Do you know how lives could have been saved with that trillion dollars and the hundreds of billions of dollars Obama gave to Iran and a few billion that B. Clinton gave to N. Korea? Oh, did you know those 2 gentlemen gave the bomb to those 2 countries? Do you have any kids? Boys? Should we let Kim bomb Guam, Seoul, LA, Boston? Would Hillary have drawn a line in the sand? Was this diatribe PC enough for you?

  8. Bill Baxter  •  Aug 14, 2017 at 10:42 am

    I agree that Sen Alexander's proposal is a good start. I hope than reasonable people in both parties can reach an agreement which will keep the basic idea behind the Affordable Care Act that health insurance should be available to all at reasonable cost regardless of preexisting conditions. I have no problem with allowing additional policies to be offered.

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